“The judge himself is the reason that didn’t happen,” Jeremy continues, “because that was actually Victory’s plan, but the judge was like - ‘No, it’ll ruin their career. They can put it out themselves and that’s cool’.” “Everyone thinks we won the court case that day and to be honest with you we kind of did. That was the end of our career, if he had sided with Tony, because November 2016 is still when we would have had the court case, which means ‘Common Courtesy’ to this day would still not be out and we just wouldn’t have been a band” he concludes, before adding “crazy shit”, as if he still can’t believe the lunacy of the whole thing. You have to be in awe of A Day To Remember at this point. Self-funded and self-released for four years and a gold record on the way; a lawsuit looming over their heads all the while, preventing them from doing a whole plethora of things. What they’ve done has taken truckloads of courage. With the end in sight, are they proud? “Absolutely,” says Jeremy immediately. “There’s nothing that would be cooler than to win this court case.” “That is a movie,” suggests Kevin. “That is a fucking movie,” Jeremy confirms with more than a dose of enthusiasm. “The garage band from the middle of nowhere that blows up, this guy fucks them over and then they beat him after four years of waiting around, and they didn’t get destroyed by the court case. That is a fucking movie.” So while in many ways A Day To Remember are on the brink of realising their goal of unhindered autonomy, Jeremy has seen himself relinquishing some of his control in the studio while recording ‘Bad Vibrations’. “I took a more backseat stance on this record, which was important to me. It’s the first time I’ve really let go of production since ‘For Those Who Have Heart’. “It was terrifying. It was important to get everyone involved, get everyone attached to the songs, get everyone playing them in a room. Right now, 2016, A Day To Remember couldn’t have made a record any other way and continued to be a band. “I kind of felt like people pulling back a little bit, like going through the motions just because they weren’t attached to the songs as much anymore. Yeah, that was more important than anything because at the end of the day if people don’t want to do it anymore then it’s over.” Sober words for a band so close to accomplishing the impossible and overcoming more hurdles than most would ever dream of even being faced with. “Exactly. That’s not a movie,” Jeremy states plainly. “We got pretty disconnected as a band for a little bit,” Kevin ventures. “I don’t think there was ever a point where we were like, ‘I don’t think we can do this anymore’, but there was definitely a point where it was like ‘do you guys still want to do this?’. “That’s why this record had to happen this way,” concludes Jeremy.