It's 8pm on a late-January evening.
DEADLETTER's vocalist Zac Lawrence has spent the day clearing ivy off someone's house – as we all are at some point in the day – and is admittedly "knackered". Without this double life, the Clark Kent-esque gardener-by-day-rock-star-by-night existence, he and the five others that make up the outfit wouldn't have created their sprawling, synth-laden second record, 'Existence Is Bliss'.
An album which thrives at the margins, playing at the fringes of synth-pop and 80s post-punk to poke fun at 21st Century existentialism, it represents a band who have shaken off the shackles of debut doubts and strode confidently into this new expanse of throbbing basslines, sardonic lyricism, and off-kilter, knocking flute and glockenspiel cameos.
Talking about the album's title, one which finds itself branded across a melting ice cube on the album's nihilistic artwork, Zac explains: "I think I had it flowing in my mind probably for a good six or seven months before we actually recorded the album.
"It all started as a joke at work. I would say to one of my co-workers, 'Do you think we're living today, or do you think we're existing?', every day, to the point where I started to really believe in it. What am I doing today? Am I living? If you look at humanity more widely, I think you can put everyone into one of those two categories: living or existing."
That idea of living, of embracing opportunities and not simply going through the motions in a world seemingly determined to reduce everything to the daily grind, informed every decision the band made for this record.
Off the back of their wondrous debut album, '
Hysterical Strength', and the subsequent tour of songs they'd been playing for upwards of three years nonstop, the sextet were desperate to try something new, to open up their minds to the furthest reaches of what DEADLETTER could be.
"I think once we had kind of knocked down this collective perception of what a DEADLETTER song is, the sky was the limit," Zac states.
Guitarist Sam Jones agrees: "I think what we've really achieved here is a real sense of striving for something. It's very chaotic, but I think you scratch the surface and there's a real clarity beneath it."