Are you creative in non-musical ways too? I like to write, I like to dance, to cook, mostly to bake. I like making stuff, and I’m reprioritising my joy, so creativity is coming up in a lot of ways.

I don’t really have a process so much as I have a lot of feelings, and holding them in my body gets to be too much… a lot. So really, for me making songs is a matter of bringing myself to a place where I can do my shit, and being like, ‘Ok! Come on out, feelings!’, and then there’s a song.

Actually wrote this song in December 2022, and it’s so funny because I would not have had an answer to this prior to this event, hahaha. I had a really lovely date with an Australian person who lived in LA but was visiting New York, and it was so wonderful and fun, and the next day at like 1am, I was up making this song about it. And I finished it, and I was like well, I’ll be damned. Call me the king of the chorus because this song slaps.

IDK how this goes in so far as being ‘weird’, but a dear friend of mine was in a really terrible abusive relationship, and it made me so angry and so sad, and I had to get the feelings out. That song actually doesn’t have a title; it’s just called like, ‘what is this dec 13’.

The songs on the record were all recorded and written through 2021, with the exception of ‘Concrete’, which I wrote in December 2020. Ryan (my producer) and I are both crazy people when it comes to doing this kind of stuff, so we work really fast and really well.

Yeesh, talk about a loaded question! I guess if I have to come up with an answer for this, which I do, I would say ‘Sublimation’ is about being a person in all the ways that you learn you are one in your early 20s. It’s about hating yourself for thinking about yourself so much, loving people who don’t love you back, making out and feeling good about it, and being off your meds and doing stupid amounts of psychedelics for a month. It’s just what being a person has been like for me on this planet for the last few years. It’s pretty much my bones.

No, actually, making the record was actually one of the easiest things I’ve ever done, and I’m so happy I was afforded the opportunity to really just feel my feelings and make art with them. That’s nuts! And now it’s on vinyl!

I don’t know, I mean in some ways totally, but in other ways, like because of that, there’s no such thing. The universe is so big. There’s so much stuff and people and ocean out there that the chances of anything happening at all are ridiculous. But they are real, and they happen, and that’s life. It just is what it is, and I guess if you had asked me in June 2021, I would have told you it’s happenstance. And now, in January 2023, I’m telling you, it’s happenstance - wanting to disappear but also be adored? It just is what it is. My best friend Emily always says ain’t no thing but a chicken wing, and that’s just that.

This is a crazy question for a lot of reasons - I never really ever made a bucket list (on account of being dangerously depressed for a long time and not really ever thinking about making it to the future), but if I had to have one I would say like having a music career would be like IT. and here I am having it. I want to do so much - I would love to play in Asia? I want to play at a festival in Australia and meet my pen pal, Dora? I want to do pretty much anything I thought I couldn’t do, which is all of it, and then just keep doing it. I’m just happy to be here.

Love my friends, pet my kitty cat Jasper; I’m trying to read more, go on walks, notice new things. Existing at all is a pretty miraculous adventure in and of itself. And the really great moments exist in the ordinary everyday ones. I love the idea of just treating yourself like a benevolent alien looking at all the stuff there is in the world. What a joy to be at all. ■