Gus: I try to keep my antennae switched onto whatever media I come across, though video games (especially the ones I grew up with and internalised) definitely have to be included, and I own way, way more music than anything else. I probably read more non-fiction actually; fiction is great obviously but learning unfamiliar raw concepts is like finding new tools to make stuff with.

Jamie: I’m a big fan of Douglas Coupland, and over the years, I have realised that our work shares a lot of similar elements, ie mundanity vs world-defining events. Sarah: I love science fiction. I like thinking about how our future might look like if we go down a particular path. How do you approach turning your story ideas into song, is the process similar to when you’re writing about other themes, or an entirely different beast?

Gus: It’s not entirely different, but it is a distinct genre and possibly the hardest to pull off. Cool-sounding platitudes relevant to a specific theme (or not!) work well for most songs, but narrative songs have to be very tightly wound to communicate a story without compromising the music itself. For example, you’ll probably need to describe a series of events to move the plot along without the language becoming boring, all while maintaining metre and performability. This makes fitting a story into a song really difficult. A successful narrative song, as with so many things, should feel natural enough that you can’t hear the work that went into crafting it.

Gus: The songs on ‘Civilisation’ lie on a spectrum encompassing our real, even mundane everyday lives and an existential, mystical framing of those experiences. ‘When the Fires Come’ recounts the wildfires we literally witnessed in the USA in 2018, but also places that within the context of the climate change society faces as a whole. The idea is to break down and copy the methods of historical cultural artefacts so we can express ourselves in the same paradigm, staking our place within the history of civilisation.

Gus: Boringly in that we could no longer record together and had to work from separate recording setups, and that it made concentrating extremely difficult. There was an interesting moment at the very start of lockdown where the enforced return to DIY invention opened the floor up to any ridiculous, interesting ideas people could come up with. That was really exciting, and I felt it putting KKB’s SPF420 live stream set together. I think that’s long since dissipated now though, and that instead, we’re all trying to jump back on the culture train where we left off in the hope that it’ll be moving again by the time we’re ready for action.

Jamie: I’m starting to feel that pre-2020 was the ‘alternate reality’. Regarding the restrictions, I really miss bouncing off each other in a room. Sarah: My perception of time has changed. It feels like we are living in double time, and it’s been strange not seeing Gus and Jamie. If you could go live in an alternate reality of your own design, what would it be like? Gus: In my alternate reality, all pop music is as close to original expression as possible, and that aspect is appreciated on a mass mainstream scale. Jamie: Croydon in 2000 but where I’m not 8 years old, or Croydon in 2500 where I’m not dead. Sarah: I want humans to have wings and animals to talk.

Gus: If we’re talking concepts specifically, I think Yves Tumor occupies a really interesting space that no-one else is exploring. Their last record updated the lineage of Black crossover artists like Jimi Hendrix, George Clinton and Prince, but in a way that feels more vital than almost anything else I can think of, without compromising the considerable musicianship required to make those records.

Jamie: Iglooghost’s world is really cool. Sarah: SOPHIE. What else are you working on at the moment? What’s your next project? Gus: We’re doing a few fun bits and pieces that should appear soon. We have to preserve some surprise for our next album, but you won’t be waiting another two years for it. Sarah: I’ve been playing Zelda on Twitch. Do you have any predictions for later this year? Gus: I predict that people will continue to make hopelessly inaccurate predictions. Jamie: Christmas! Sarah: My wisdom teeth will finally finish growing and not hurt anymore. P