"No Surprise". That was a, uh, that was kind of a interesting mashup that happened, uhm. I, I flew out to Vancouver and worked with Chad Kroeger of Nickelback. And he had this song that he had written with, uh, with another dude, and. Liked the chorus. Didn't like the rest of it or something like that. And, and, so he kinda, just started reworking it and. Coming up with different ideas and, and how to make it, uh, make it punch. And, and it just kinda came together. And, uhm, it was also the first time I met Richard Marx. So, there's that.
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