Album four is indeed when the road opens up a bit wider for a band. The debut is the statement piece, the follow-up is often charged with building upon this without losing traction, and number three is the odd one where changes begin to take shape. But four? You’re ready for anything, fully confident in yourself, as is the DMA’S way.

‘How Many Dreams?’ certainly has the aura of an album that’s been studiously picked over, and where you sit on the DMA’S fan scale will impact how it’ll sit with you. There’s a little something for everyone, but this is a band toting a big sound with even bigger ambitions, and there’s no room for a note out of place. “The extra time that gave us the ability to give that attention to detail made a big difference,” Johnny confirms.

Growth is an important part of being in a band. But when you’re also levied with the expectations of fans, “you get a little bit of a kickback, [but] I find this happens with every band,” Johnny says. “A few people go, ‘why don’t you sound like your first record?’ But the truth is, if you just kept making your first record again and again and again, they’d get bored and go listen to someone else. So I think subconsciously, even if some of them don’t know it, they like it when the sound changes because it means they get to grow with the band, and I think that’s really important.”

With ever-increasing success can come even internal pressures. It’s an understandable, if often unpleasant, facet of striking gold. To keep their hearts and minds away from such nosy intrusions, Johnny mentions one key ingredient. “One of my goals every morning is just to wake up and remember how I felt when I was 16 years old and I first started writing songs,” he says. “That love and the magic that I found in songwriting. If I focus on that, the rest just comes along with it. The moment you start thinking about, ‘Oh, you know, I want to do Wembley Arena next year, we’ve got to be able to fill those seats, I’m gonna write a song like this’, that becomes too contrived. People see through that straight away. So that’s one thing we’re conscious of, not forgetting why you love it.”

Building up from the bare bones for ‘How Many Dreams?’, it was about mining that creative spark in the initial demos. They then set out to construct a castle made of bangers and “building up properly and figuring out what sounds can make it better, as opposed to starting from scratch every time.” It’s something Johnny enthuses for everyone to have a go at, since “it’s great that you can do it because people are making Top 10 records in the bedroom these days!”

Dealing in bangers of all shapes and sizes, what this looks like to DMA’S is a constantly moving idea. “It’s always changing for me. When I was younger, I was adamant about having all these different parts to a song, you know, you need a great riff; great verse; great pre-chorus; great chorus; great middle-eight; and a great outro,” he explains. “And I wanted them each to be unique and different and whatnot.” Long gone are those days (though the elements still sit nicely amongst this future-focused vision), and in testament to this, the album closer ‘De Carle’ goes into full-on dance mode. “That sounds like that’s a banger to me, and that’s pretty much just nearly two chords the whole time.”

Given DMA’S’ start was shrouded in a Britpop revivalist cloud, the due care and attention may be a missed facet of the group, but bops don’t just drop from the heavens; they take work and dedication. Do DMA’S think they’re underestimated?

So, what is the secret sauce that makes this DMA’S’ amalgamation of bouncy Britpop and raucous raving so good? “To be honest, man, we’re kind of just making it up as we go along,” Johnny chuckles. While a fair enough response, the fact that they can let their little musical atoms bounce around at high velocity until bangers like ‘Everybody’s Saying Thursday’s The Weekend’ form, is quite marvellous. Though there is one little tidbit that helps. “The first thing, which has never changed, and hasn’t changed since the first record, is that we just try and write great songs,” he smiles. ‘Nuff said, really. ■