Photos: Ryan Deag.
Hello, I am well thanks, how are you? Probably just gonna watch YouTube and build Lego later.

"I called it that as a tongue-in-cheek nod to shoegaze, and it just stuck"
— Joey Maxwell
'shoelaces' is about social anxiety. It follows different perspectives of a party, those internal thoughts desperately worrying about what other people think of you when the reality is that everyone else is probably in the same boat, staring at their shoelaces. I wanted to channel all that nervous emotion and challenge myself to flick between first and third person to tell the different narratives. 'shoelaces' was the title of the demo; I called it that as a tongue-in-cheek nod to shoegaze, and it just stuck.
Just the pair that I was born in.
I think I'm honouring my influences a lot more now. I grew up listening to midwest emo, 90s grunge, post-punk and generally heavier music than what I was making before. Returning to a DIY setup with no label or anything, making the music I truly want to make has probably prompted it all. It definitely feels more comfortable.
The new EP is called 'dont know how to feel about this'. I went with that title because I actually don't know how to feel about any of this! I have no idea what is going to happen, who, if anyone, is going to care, but I'm okay with it. I made these songs for me. It's probably not a great answer, but that's really the truth. I wasn't thinking about being an artist or had a pre-conception of how it might perform. I really just want to be as deliberate as possible now. Writing and releasing music in a journalistic way is cathartic for me, pulling together this EP helped me to enjoy being creative again.
Nothing too mental, but I am that person voice noting melodies on trains. I hum constantly, and when I'm next to a busy road, I sing the lyrics really loudly. There's a dual carriageway next to my house; it's a great place to see how the lyrics sound when you scream them.

"There's a dual carriageway next to my house; it's a great place to see how the lyrics sound when you scream them"
— Joey Maxwell
Anything with aliens in it would be cool, or serial killers. Or serial killer aliens.
Aside from the financial aspect… probably having to make continuous critical decisions. I second-guess myself all the time. I'm having to operate on gut feeling as the main driver in pretty much every decision. Although the payoff of being across everything and having true creative control has definitely been worth it, these songs are the most un-diluted version of themselves.
I'm working on a new EP and also plotting a headline tour for next April!
Is there anything else we should know?
Please come to my show in London, it's on 19th October. Thanks for having me, Dork; it really means a lot. ■











