I think the strangest thing about the pandemic and the writing/recording process of ‘Reeling’ is that I’d never experienced either recording a debut album or a pandemic, and nor had the lads - I guess like most people. It was a time of completely new encounters for us all, and I guess because we didn’t really know any different about recording at that point, it didn’t feel like limitations were in place, or we were doing anything differently to how an album is constructed…
You know, it’s sort of like placing someone on a rollercoaster for the first time, without a seatbelt, and them surviving the experience and then asking them to describe how unsafe they felt… I mean, if they didn’t know seatbelts existed, they’re not going to know any different, and quite possibly, they’re always going to want to ride the rollercoaster that way.
Yes, of course - but the challenge is the fun part; it’s where the vitality of something is born. I don’t tend to trust things that are completed too easily.
It’s a process I don’t get to choose and something I wouldn’t wish to choose either. I see it as more of a channelling process, without getting too spiritual about it… All I know is that survival for me is writing every day.
I’m in a place now where I can listen to the record from both an outsider’s perspective and from a place where I can connect to it deeply. I’m proud of ‘Reeling’; we all are. I guess that was the one true goal.
Most definitely, I didn’t connect to it anymore, and it was important for me to be able to. I guess a good way to put it is trying to fit into old clothes that you know don’t fit you anymore; inevitably, it’s going to be uncomfortable and probably not going to look very good, haha.
‘Reeling’ wouldn’t exist without Catherine, and I don’t just mean in a literal sense. Catherine allowed it to become a part of her and also helped me personally so much throughout the journey of the record. You don’t meet people like her often, and you also can never expect anyone to become so invested emotionally in your art - even if they are producing it. The fact that she did that is a great part of why the record sounds the way it does.
We’ve currently been rehearsing the record for the tour in March/April, and I’m really enjoying performing ‘Under Your Skin’ at the moment.
A prophet once said awards are like headlights stapled to your chest… I think his name was Bob Dylan. The ambition for me is that people find some way to connect to the record and enjoy listening to it in a multitude of different circumstances and situations. The rest isn’t really up to me, and once it’s been given to the world, it no longer belongs to us. That’s the exciting part.
George [Favager, bass] was round at my house the other evening, and I think at one point in the night, he did try and climb into the oven. I definitely had to pinch myself then, haha.
Haha, yes, the dream is always in motion, with no direction. Always heading towards something real.











